SOPA - The Stop Online Piracy Act
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Nephele
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About time somebody kicked Monsanto's ass. While I have no fears about eating genetically modified food because I don't believe it has actually been proven that eating such foods is harmful, I think that the uncontrolled spread of GMOs where people don't want them to be is a genuine concern. I also despise the bullying tactics of corporations like Monsanto, and the unconscionable people who run them. How interesting that the first successful lawsuit against Monsanto was ruled by the Federal Court of Canada. Hooray for Canada! sgath92 wrote: Just in: The bill's author just stated the DNS filter part of SOPA should be taken out to allow the Judiciary committee to investigate the option for future use.
The bill still sucks for a plethora of other reasons, and it sounds like they are hoping to sneak the DNS blocking feature in once the subject has lost all the public's attention. Now that momentum is building regarding attention being paid to this bill, I think the public will continue to scrutinize what our legislators are doing. Especially in this election year. Even when the election year is over, I think people are angry enough to keep the momentum going. The anger expressed in movements such as Occupy, I think is a good sign of people standing up and taking notice (as well as demanding that they themselves be acknowledged). -- Nephele
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sgath92
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Nephele wrote: Now that momentum is building regarding attention being paid to this bill, I think the public will continue to scrutinize what our legislators are doing. Especially in this election year.
Even when the election year is over, I think people are angry enough to keep the momentum going. The anger expressed in movements such as Occupy, I think is a good sign of people standing up and taking notice (as well as demanding that they themselves be acknowledged).
-- Nephele All that pent up anger didn't save us from having them pass the NDAA
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Nephele
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sgath92 wrote: All that pent up anger didn't save us from having them pass the NDAA True, but I think with Obama's signing of that, it's turning a lot of anger towards our current Presidential administration, which previously had been viewed by many as a hope for genuine change in this nation. I think more people will be skeptical with this coming election. -- Nephele
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spiderlimbs
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Nephele wrote: sgath92 wrote: All that pent up anger didn't save us from having them pass the NDAA True, but I think with Obama's signing of that, it's turning a lot of anger towards our current Presidential administration, which previously had been viewed by many as a hope for genuine change in this nation. I think more people will be skeptical with this coming election. -- Nephele And the really bad parts of the NDAA ( like indefinite detention of US citizens) will hopefully be struck down for being unconstitutional. As for SOPA, so many people are pissed about this legislative piece of crap that I think the major companies that host websites may very well push back against this bill and cause it to either not go through, or go through a massive overhaul. If it stands and passes as it is, there are a lot of companies here in the US that will simply crumble as people jump ship en masse as they did to Go Daddy and as Anonymous continues to call for Massive Blackouts of the internet. The powers that be are about to see how mad the masses can be, and how it's going to effect their bottom line. ~spidey
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Arquinsiel
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A wise imaginary politician once said that you can spend a lot of money suppressing your population and preventing them being able to say bad things about you in public.
Or you can spend that same money making their lives better and sleep easy at night, while they badmouth you on the news.
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| Sat Jan 14, 2012 5:30 pm |
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sgath92
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Nephele wrote: sgath92 wrote: All that pent up anger didn't save us from having them pass the NDAA True, but I think with Obama's signing of that, it's turning a lot of anger towards our current Presidential administration, which previously had been viewed by many as a hope for genuine change in this nation. I think more people will be skeptical with this coming election. -- Nephele I think that Ron Paul's showing in NH is proof of how the voters are feeling right now, and as much as I disagree with Paul [anyone who knows me knows I am not a Paul supporter by a long shot] I have to agree with him that it says "something" when the media starts talking about the 1st and 3rd place victors in an election without really going into any detail on the 2nd place victor. If this pent up anger continues to go in this direction, it's not just the quasi-two party establishment that is going to have to worry but the commercial press as well [particularly when they were caught red handed lying about the NDAA's detention provisions to try to make it sound like Americans weren't being targeted by it].
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ittybittybat
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Dude, Wikipedia's out...(sort of) hopefully that will make more of an impact.
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dunebat
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ittybittybat wrote: Dude, Wikipedia's out...(sort of) hopefully that will make more of an impact. "Sort of" is right. As of last night, it goes to this "Stop SOPA, alert your Congressman!" page. However, if you hit the STOP button on your browser while the original Wikipedia page is still loading, you can actually bring up whatever Wikipedia page you were trying to look at. Google also has a big censor bar over their logo today. It would be awesome for these sites to totally go black, but they can't really due to lost revenue. (Some sites, though, will go totally dark as of 08:00 today.)
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demon17
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I wonder what will happen if people from America start to inhibit websites all over the world. There would be millions of damage suits according to the national laws of hundreds of different countries. 
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dunebat
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demon17 wrote: I wonder what will happen if people from America start to inhibit websites all over the world. There would be millions of damage suits according to the national laws of hundreds of different countries.  That depends on the censorship laws in other nations. It also depends on whether or not the United States - under any POTUS - is willing to throw their full weight behind the idea of global censorship by forcing the UN to draft similar legislation at the global level (usually accomplished by refusing to pay UN membership dues until the desired legislation is passed).
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sgath92
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demon17 wrote: I wonder what will happen if people from America start to inhibit websites all over the world. There would be millions of damage suits according to the national laws of hundreds of different countries.  The plan calls for using the technology china uses to censor political & religious messages to prevent Americans from accessing whatever foreign content our corporate overlords decides is "infringing" I really hoped google would actually go down, instead of simply putting a black bar over their logo.
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dunebat
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sgath92 wrote: demon17 wrote: I wonder what will happen if people from America start to inhibit websites all over the world. There would be millions of damage suits according to the national laws of hundreds of different countries.  The plan calls for using the technology china uses to censor political & religious messages to prevent Americans from accessing whatever foreign content our corporate overlords decides is "infringing" I really hoped google would actually go down, instead of simply putting a black bar over their logo. Wikipedia didn't really go down, either. It's just a script that loads a new page over the page you're trying to access. You can still access it, if you're quick enough. It was all hype, really.
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demon17
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sgath92 wrote: demon17 wrote: I wonder what will happen if people from America start to inhibit websites all over the world. There would be millions of damage suits according to the national laws of hundreds of different countries.  The plan calls for using the technology china uses to censor political & religious messages to prevent Americans from accessing whatever foreign content our corporate overlords decides is "infringing" I really hoped google would actually go down, instead of simply putting a black bar over their logo. I think, the prime court will stop that law, because it would reduce the freedom of information. Basic civil rights of the people have to be respected more than economic interests of a few.
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dunebat
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demon17 wrote: sgath92 wrote: demon17 wrote: I wonder what will happen if people from America start to inhibit websites all over the world. There would be millions of damage suits according to the national laws of hundreds of different countries.  The plan calls for using the technology china uses to censor political & religious messages to prevent Americans from accessing whatever foreign content our corporate overlords decides is "infringing" I really hoped google would actually go down, instead of simply putting a black bar over their logo. I think, the prime court will stop that law, because it would reduce the freedom of information. Basic civil rights of the people have to be respected more than economic interests of a few. The Supreme Court? Possibly.
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Nephele
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. . . How SOPA affects libraries and library users.Click on the above link to read a letter from three major library associations (American Library Association, Association of Research Libraries, and Association of College and Research Libraries), to members of the House Committee on the Judiciary. -- Nephele
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