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Charlotte Sometimes
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 1612 Location: Germany Gender:
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Amazon is one of the best CD stores in the world. It has almost anything and cheep, there for I buy most of my CDs there. Recently Amazon stopped selling things to people living in Israel. They say new American laws forbid them to send anything to Israel. In my opinion its bull shit. What do you think, is it discrimination? Racism? Or are they really telling the truth?
What do you think should be done about it?
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:17 am |
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Son of Stoker
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Joined: May 2002 Posts: 1256 Location: Oklahoma, USA Gender:
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Who cares?
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:20 am |
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Charlotte Sometimes
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 1612 Location: Germany Gender:
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Son of Stoker wrote: Who cares?
I care! I live in Israel.
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:34 am |
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SisterSandy
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 893 Location: pennsylvania Gender:
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You have a right to have this policy explained to you..In my opinion anyway. Call me a crazy American, but I would be angry. and probably boycott Amazon. and if so inclined start some kind of action against them..Course that takes money..or knowing a lawyer who works for free.
Still I would request that the written policy be sent to you, just to see if they actually respond
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 10:05 am |
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xCrystalx
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Joined: November 2002 Posts: 389 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Gender:
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A lot of people may care. Just because you live in the United States and don't experience this doesn't mean it's right for Amazon to be doing this.
I agree with SisterSandy. It is unfair to you that you all of the sudden can't order because you are from a specific country. I think you should do what she said and see what happens. Good luck 
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 10:10 am |
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StarvingStudent47
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 2974 Location: Medford, OR Gender:
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Son of Stoker wrote: Who cares?
*pisses in Stoker's ear*
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 11:48 am |
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StarvingStudent47
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Joined: April 2002 Posts: 2974 Location: Medford, OR Gender:
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Charlotte Sometimes wrote: Amazon is one of the best CD stores in the world. It has almost anything and cheep, there for I buy most of my CDs there. Recently Amazon stopped selling things to people living in Israel. They say new American laws forbid them to send anything to Israel. In my opinion its bull shit. What do you think, is it discrimination? Racism? Or are they really telling the truth? What do you think should be done about it?
That's bullshit. Pure and simple. No such laws exist, especially for simple things like audio CDs.
Does CDnow.com or BN.com still ship to Israel?
As for where it originates, there's some wierd shit going on in the US related to Israel. On one side, a good amount of Americans support the IDF because of a reaction against Muslim terrorism (and a sizable amount of anti-Arab racism) related to 9/11. On the other hand, there is a lot of anti-Semitism, because of piddly little shit like bullet pockmarks in the Church of the Nativity. It's also become en vogue among the American far-left to draw parallels between modern Israel and Nazi Germany, and even make jokes about the Holocaust (as someone at a party recently did to my face) because "Jews are barbarians too." And then there's a third side: a lot of blue-collar Americans are now saying such things as "fuck them; I hope they all kill each other. Just make them leave Christian churches alone." I don't know the politics of Amazon.com's owners, so I can't say which of these angles they represent.
SS
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 11:54 am |
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blood_rose
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5603 Location: Los Angeles, CA Gender:
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Well, like everything else, buy from the competition and prove that just because you live in a country that pussy Amazon is afraid to ship to doesn't mean that you're just going to roll over and take it.
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 12:21 pm |
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Angelbane
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Joined: December 2002 Posts: 93 Gender:
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America has problems getting along...deal with it.
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:15 pm |
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Lilith
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 9249 Location: NY, USA Gender:
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Charlotte Sometimes wrote: What do you think should be done about it?
Contact Amazon and ask them to explain their policy, they should at least have some kind of statement regarding it.
You could also check and see if Amazon.co.uk will ship to Israel, the shipping time from the UK would be shorter I assume and they might not have the same policies as their American counterpart.
Buy from other places... bn.com, towerrecords.com, cdnow.com and numerous small online goth/industrial related stores etc. etc.
Lilith
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:22 pm |
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Lilith
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 9249 Location: NY, USA Gender:
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A note to both SonOfStoker and Angelbane... if you can't say anything of use, please don't bother responding.
Lilith
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:23 pm |
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thetragicclown
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 3691 Location: Eep's couch Gender:
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Lilith wrote: You could also check and see if Amazon.co.uk will ship to Israel, the shipping time from the UK would be shorter I assume and they might not have the same policies as their American counterpart.
Lilith
Amazon.co.uk only ship to the following countries...
European Union
Austria
Belgium
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Gibraltar
Greece
Italy
Luxemburg
Netherlands
Portugal
Republic of Ireland
Spain
Sweden
UK
Additional Countries
Iceland
Liechtenstein
Norway
Switzerland
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| Tue Dec 24, 2002 9:45 pm |
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Charlotte Sometimes
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 1612 Location: Germany Gender:
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SisterSandy wrote: Still I would request that the written policy be sent to you, just to see if they actually respond
I think I'll do it.
Thank you.
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| Wed Dec 25, 2002 5:46 am |
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Lilith
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 9249 Location: NY, USA Gender:
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thetragicclown wrote: Amazon.co.uk only ship to the following countries...
European Union
Additional Countries
Iceland Liechtenstein Norway Switzerland
The US isn't listed in that additional countries list, and sure as hell isn't the European Union, and I've had items shipped here from amazon.co.uk several times (those times where I want UK over US versions, like Harry Potter (Philosopher's stone)... or for specifically UK authors).
I'd still email them and ask, they'd be another place to question the policy too.
Lilith
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| Wed Dec 25, 2002 8:26 pm |
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psychotica
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 46 Location: Estonia Gender:
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I'd be pissed if Amazon wouldn't ship into my country... oh wait it doesn't.... ok I'm pissed now... :p
no, seriously, this is a load of bullshit they're doing... you should definitely ask for some sort of an explanation... after all, I'm getting curious what would be their explanation? that you might order anthrax over Amazon.com? and attack US with it later?
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| Thu Dec 26, 2002 1:37 am |
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