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 Should There Be A Separation of Church and State? 

Should There Be A Separation of Church and State?
Yes 94%  94%  [ 31 ]
No 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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 Should There Be A Separation of Church and State? 
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Post Re: Should There Be A Separation of Church and State?
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So when does this sock-puppet president man up and take responsibility for the economy? Next year? The year after that?


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Sorry, I was watching Penn & Teller, but I don't think I could add much to what Viscus & Toob-Wurm have said in the mean time.

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AngryInch wrote:
I noticed that practitioners of Eckankar also lobbied to have their symbols on grave markers--which is a New Age Californiaesque cult.

I guess they figured they had to draw the line somewhere. Scientologists will be next, I suppose.

That said, personally, I don't see why a person can't have any symbol they want on a gravestone, however absurd.
Actually they neither have to draw the line nor are they entitled to.

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As for wars...Iraq was essentially won by the time Bush left office and Obama is screwing up the one war he's been entrusted with.
Oh god no, so many reasons no. Iraq is worse than it ever was before.


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Every president is "the worst" president to somebody for some reason, and if you want to be taken seriously then you had better make some more substantiated claims.

But anyway, this has little to do with separation of church and state.


/agreed and if you don't want to get thrown into Political Exile AngryInch, I highly suggest you reel it in and stay on the topic at hand. This is the only warning I will be giving you on the matter due to your past indiscretions in this section.

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Post Re: Should There Be A Separation of Church and State?
Church and state are two powerbases that naturally attract each other, often providing power over the moral as well as legal (viz: Henry VIII and his antics). For any majority religion in a country, the problem is preventing those two from coalescing back into a den of thieves. Law is inadequate as its often informal agreements and word of mouth. Situating them at opposite ends of the country (without an internet or phone connection) might help, slightly.

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atharmony612 wrote:
OMFG YES! I think its horrible for religion too be ingrained into the infrastructure of America. Religion (and im not trying to be offensive to anyone, If I am, sorry) can cloud a person's judgement and make one pray for help, when instead, they should be helping themselves. And all that bullshit about Obama being Muslim and people saying, "Oh, wow, hmm... he's not like me... I need a reason to hate him..." That's racial and steriotypical ignorance. I don't like Obama either, but I don't him cus he's black or religious. But that's beside the fact.


I do not know if I exactly agree with this or not...

I mean, yes Religion CAN cloud a peron's judgement, but I think it depends on how you use it as to how it affects your judgements.

For example, if you think that because of your religion you are better than EVERYONE else, and then that line of thinking makes you feel that your way is that only way because your religions says so- then yes, your religion is clouding your judgement.

However, if your religion is solely for spiritual purposes and growth, and you harbor no ill will to others (be it because of your religion or not) and because of your religion you wish only for peace and justice for everyone, it can, in fact, cause you to think more rationally in terms of everyone, not just yourself.

I think that is the key difference with Religion. Some people use religion and spirituality selfishly, while others do not.

It is usually, from my understanding, the ones that push their own beliefs on others (inside politics and out) that tend to be the most selfish (or self-centered, whichever you deem fit).

This is a big reason why I feel that religion should be left out of politics. Your agenda within the government should be the people and their needs- not your own idea about what the people need (in terms of religion).



I mostly meant religion in america(i.e. Christianty) lol also it was late and i was tired

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