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DrXnY
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Riff Raff, you like them?
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| Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:37 am |
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Vivisector
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DrXnY wrote: Vivisector wrote: ...Stabbing Westward? Yes, Stabbing Westward. Their album 'Darkest Days' is very industrial with depressing/angry lyrics. You should check them out if your an industrial lover. and the mounteback, Interpol is punk. Not the Power-pop 'punk' that you see on mtv, but the real punk ( think ramones, sex pistols ect ) only they are newer.
*twitch*
If you consider Darkest Days or ANY Stabbing Westward album "very industrial", you have a loose grasp on what industrial is.
Stabbing Westward is good mind you, I just don't think I'd lump them into the same category as Throbbing Gristle and Skinny Puppy.
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| Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:54 pm |
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DrXnY
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Vivisector wrote: DrXnY wrote: Vivisector wrote: ...Stabbing Westward? Yes, Stabbing Westward. Their album 'Darkest Days' is very industrial with depressing/angry lyrics. You should check them out if your an industrial lover. and the mounteback, Interpol is punk. Not the Power-pop 'punk' that you see on mtv, but the real punk ( think ramones, sex pistols ect ) only they are newer. *twitch* If you consider Darkest Days or ANY Stabbing Westward album "very industrial", you have a loose grasp on what industrial is. Stabbing Westward is good mind you, I just don't think I'd lump them into the same category as Throbbing Gristle and Skinny Puppy.
i didnt say that all of stabbing westward's albums are industrial, darkest days is. have you listened to it...?
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Squiggles
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DrXnY wrote: Vivisector wrote: DrXnY wrote: Vivisector wrote: ...Stabbing Westward? Yes, Stabbing Westward. Their album 'Darkest Days' is very industrial with depressing/angry lyrics. You should check them out if your an industrial lover. and the mounteback, Interpol is punk. Not the Power-pop 'punk' that you see on mtv, but the real punk ( think ramones, sex pistols ect ) only they are newer. *twitch* If you consider Darkest Days or ANY Stabbing Westward album "very industrial", you have a loose grasp on what industrial is. Stabbing Westward is good mind you, I just don't think I'd lump them into the same category as Throbbing Gristle and Skinny Puppy. i didnt say that all of stabbing westward's albums are industrial, darkest days is. have you listened to it...?
The real question is, have you listened to Einsturzende Neubauten or Skinny Puppy before? 
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:00 am |
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RiffRaff
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DrXnY: No I don't like them. I was just waiting for vivisectors reaction to that post :p
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 12:03 am |
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Vivisector
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DrXnY wrote: Vivisector wrote: DrXnY wrote: Vivisector wrote: ...Stabbing Westward? Yes, Stabbing Westward. Their album 'Darkest Days' is very industrial with depressing/angry lyrics. You should check them out if your an industrial lover. and the mounteback, Interpol is punk. Not the Power-pop 'punk' that you see on mtv, but the real punk ( think ramones, sex pistols ect ) only they are newer. *twitch* If you consider Darkest Days or ANY Stabbing Westward album "very industrial", you have a loose grasp on what industrial is. Stabbing Westward is good mind you, I just don't think I'd lump them into the same category as Throbbing Gristle and Skinny Puppy. i didnt say that all of stabbing westward's albums are industrial, darkest days is. have you listened to it...?
Yes, I have listened to Darkest Days.
No, it's not industrial.
Yes, you need a clue.
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:20 am |
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Lunamoth
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Vivisector wrote: Yes, I have listened to Darkest Days. No, it's not industrial. Yes, you need a clue.
It would appear that they are indeed marketed as Industrial and/or "Industrial influenced rock":
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and again...
and one more.
Whether or not anyone agrees or what real Industrial is, that's what their label and/or distributor is calling them, so it's not that far fetched that someone might actually believe it.
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:44 am |
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Vivisector
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So you just proved that major labels have no clue about the industrial scene.
I could have told you that.
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:55 am |
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Lunamoth
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Vivisector wrote: So you just proved that major labels have no clue about the industrial scene.
I could have told you that.
When did I say *they* had a clue? I said, "Whether or not anyone agrees on what real Industrial is, that's what their label and/or distributor is calling them, so it's not that far fetched that someone might actually believe it."
Therefore, I think it's unfair to decide that an individual buying the albums in question is clueless just because they believe what they read. Everyone makes missteps in their journey of finding out what's good and what isn't.
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:04 am |
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Vivisector
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I apologize. I just skimmed your first post. Sorry.
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 11:45 am |
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DrXnY
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and btw, it may not be as industrial as skinny puppy, but just give that album a try, it's good.
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blood_rose
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Unless you were in a coma for most of the mid to late 90s, you would have probably heard about Stabbing Westward. They're not industrial even in the broadest definition of the word. And we've devoted a FUCKING PAGE to them in a thread about the top 15 goth/industrial albums of all time.
So... now can we please get this thread back on track before it ends up closed?
~blood rose~
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 1:03 pm |
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Vivisector
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DrXnY wrote: and btw, it may not be as industrial as skinny puppy, but just give that album a try, it's good.
I've fucking heard it. See my earlier fucking post. And Blood Rose's. Try reading for once. Anyways....
My list (In no particular order)
1) Bauhaus - In The Flat Field
2) Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
3) Rasputina - Thanks For The Ether
4) Switchblade Symphony - Serpentine Gallery
5) The Cure - Pornography
6) Fields Of The Nephilim - The Hephilim
7) Alien Sex Fiend - Who's Been Sleeping In My Brain?
 Sex Gang Children - Sex Gang Children
9) The Sisters Of Mercy - Floodland
10) Killing Joke - Nighttime
11) Skinny Puppy - Cleanse Fold and Manipulate
12) Current 93 - Dogs Blood Rising
13) Siouxsie and the Banshees - Juju
14) The Mission UK - The First Chapter
15) Death In June - Oh How We Laughed
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| Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:28 pm |
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DrXnY
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Blood_rose, are you gonna make a list....?
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paredafoe
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Takes me a while to get into a group, don't like group just because it is goth, need to like the music, otherwise whats the point!
Heres my choices in no particular order :-
well sorta, first ones I havn't spotted elsewhere in the thread,
NFD - No Love Lost (ex-Nephilim and Sensorium top group live aswell)
Sensorium - Sensorium
Fields of the Nephilim - Elizium (can't believe in no-one elses list unless I'm blind)
March Violets - Natural History
Mission - Aura
Cure - Bloodflowers
Then the a few others:-
Sisters of Mercy - First and Last and Always
Sisters of Mercy - Vision Thing
Sisters of Mercy - Floodland
Mission - Children
Mission - Neverland
Fields of the Nephilim - Dawnrazor
Fields of the Nephilim - The Nephilim
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