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 Anarchy in the....Bush administration? - Bush a punk rock icon? 
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This seemed a bit more fit to put here rather than music, but I wasn't quite sure.

So, what do you think?

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Please no.
To me right wing punk has disturbing echoes of C18 and other skinhead organisations.

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Thu May 13, 2004 8:57 am
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Johnny Ramone is a Republican?!

Damn, that's like finding out that the Easter Bunny poisons the chocolate eggs.

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Spike:

These aren't right-wing-extremist skinheads, they're just Republicans. Personally, I think it's nice that some punk bands don't want to "smash the state" or "abolish capitalism" or "liquidate the kulaks as a class." I'll take both moderate liberals or moderate conservatives over EITHER left-wing or right-wing exremism. And let's be honest: a very large proportion of punk isn't liberal, it's left-wing extremist.

The website's articles are hardly fascist or evil. There's an article about how a few Muslim leaders perverted an otherwise-good religion and twisted it to their anti-Semitic purposes (note: they are NOT bashing Islam as a whole); there's a couple articles bashing Kerry (that's good old two-party politics, not right-wing extremism); there's a couple of frustrating-but-not-surprising articles about conservative punk bands being blacklisted from punk venues and the like. The one political cartoon they've got pokes fun at Michael Moore--once again, hardly a sign of fascism and racism.

If you can find ANYTHING skinhead-esque at ConservativePunk.Com, tell me, cause I sure can't. Jumping to the conclusion that conservatism is intimately linked to skinhead-ism is no different than saying that all liberals are Communists.



Nachtzehrer:

Don't worry, Johnny Ramone is just karmicly counterbalancing all the hubbub that the Dixie Chicks caused in the country music scene ;)

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StarvingStudent47 wrote:
Nachtzehrer:

Don't worry, Johnny Ramone is just karmicly counterbalancing all the hubbub that the Dixie Chicks caused in the country music scene ;)

SS

I guess we just have to ask ourselves: WWJD?

What Would Joey Do? (:

~Nachtzehrer, who promises not to start hating the Ramones as much as he started loving the Dixie Chicks~

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Conservative Punk!?!? What in the Hel?
That's like saying "air breathing fish" or "peaceful neo-con".

The mind boggles...


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/div wrote:
They are not raging against the machine - they are raging for it.


So they're raging against raging against the machine?

Hmm, Punk-Bush. If only I had photoshop...

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StarvingStudent47 wrote:
The one political cartoon they've got pokes fun at Michael Moore--once again, hardly a sign of fascism and racism.

Well of course not. One side has Rush, and now, finally, the other side has answered with Moore. They're fair game. ;)

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Jumping to the conclusion that conservatism is intimately linked to skinhead-ism is no different than saying that all liberals are Communists.


I'd dare say it's ... worse, even meaner. Meanie-pie.


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Conservative Punk. Can you say "oxymoron", boys and girls? By the way: I've been aware of Miss Graves' happy-go-Conservative views since this individual left the Misfits. There's a lot you can learn about a vocalist just by reading a news article in MK Magazine [formerly MK-Ultra].


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StarvingStudent47 wrote:
Spike:

These aren't right-wing-extremist skinheads, they're just Republicans. Personally, I think it's nice that some punk bands don't want to "smash the state" or "abolish capitalism" or "liquidate the kulaks as a class." I'll take both moderate liberals or moderate conservatives over EITHER left-wing or right-wing exremism. And let's be honest: a very large proportion of punk isn't liberal, it's left-wing extremist.

The website's articles are hardly fascist or evil. There's an article about how a few Muslim leaders perverted an otherwise-good religion and twisted it to their anti-Semitic purposes (note: they are NOT bashing Islam as a whole); there's a couple articles bashing Kerry (that's good old two-party politics, not right-wing extremism); there's a couple of frustrating-but-not-surprising articles about conservative punk bands being blacklisted from punk venues and the like. The one political cartoon they've got pokes fun at Michael Moore--once again, hardly a sign of fascism and racism.

If you can find ANYTHING skinhead-esque at ConservativePunk.Com, tell me, cause I sure can't. Jumping to the conclusion that conservatism is intimately linked to skinhead-ism is no different than saying that all liberals are Communists.

Sorry if I have caused offence, I did not intend to call the republican party Fascist or Rascist. I simply meant that all the punks I have ever met have been politically polarised, either hard left or hard right.

Also where does "Liquidate the Kulaks as a class" come from?
Stalin. And I really agree with what stalin did (:
Sombody was making a point about tarring people with the same brush?

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/div wrote:
The 22-year-old is a fan of the New York City punk band Bouncing Souls, and has the tattoos to prove it.
You need a tattoo to like a band?
Silly little boy...

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Still, punk rockers like Michale Graves sometimes feel alienated from the rest of punk rock scene, admitting that he receives a tremendous amount of hate mail.

"Sometimes I do feel pretty uncool," he says.
He feels uncool because he's standing for what he believes in and being himself and gets hatemail because of it?
Silly little boy...

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In his knee-high Dr Martens and with his head shaved, Michale Graves is the Bush-friendly face of punk rock.


I'm showing this article to my mom. If this guy can wear knee-high docs, then, dammit, so can I.

I wonder what Bush thinks about punk-rock. Hm...
I need a few minutes to soak all this in........it's just way too weird....

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Punks don't always have to be liberal. Remember, there are punks who are neo-nazis.
If a punk can be a neo-nazi, then they certainly can be a republican... granted republican seems a bit too mainstream for them.


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Spike:

Nowhere in my post do I call YOU Stalinist; I was calling the majority of punk bands left-wing extremists of one variety or another, whether they be left-wing anarchists or communists or whatever. Somehow, I don't feel the need to retract that statement ;)

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Heh.. Interesting.


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Heh.. Interesting.

Okay, see, this? This isn't necessary. This is the third post by you I have come across in which you add absolutely no value to the thread. I'm asking you nicely to quit that.

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