Superstitions From Around The World
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Manisha
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Sorry to bring it back up (though the thread isn't quite dead yet...) but I read this and had to share. Wiki; On Consumption (aka Tuberculosis) wrote: Before the Industrial Revolution, tuberculosis may sometimes have been regarded as vampirism. When one member of a family died from it, the other members that were infected would lose their health slowly.
People believed that this was caused by the original victim draining the life from the other family members. Furthermore, people who had TB exhibited symptoms similar to what people considered to be vampire traits. People with TB often have symptoms such as red, swollen eyes (which also creates a sensitivity to bright light), pale skin, extremely low body heat, a weak heart and coughing blood, suggesting the idea that the only way for the afflicted to replenish this loss of blood was by sucking blood.
Another folk belief told that the affected individual was being forced, nightly, to attend fairy revels, so that the victim wasted away owing to lack of rest; this belief was most common when a strong connection was seen between the fairies and the dead. Similarly, but less commonly, it was attributed to the victims being "hagridden"—being transformed into horses by witches (hags) to travel to their nightly meetings, again resulting in a lack of rest.
TB was romanticized in the nineteenth century. Many people believed TB produced feelings of euphoria referred to as Spes phthisica ("hope of the consumptive"). It was believed that TB sufferers who were artists had bursts of creativity as the disease progressed. It was also believed that TB sufferers acquired a final burst of energy just before they died that made women more beautiful and men more creative. In the early 20th century, some physicians believed TB to be caused by masturbation.
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| Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:32 pm |
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Minnie d'Arc
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Midieval Fantasy wrote: Wiki; On Consumption (aka Tuberculosis) wrote: Before the Industrial Revolution, tuberculosis may sometimes have been regarded as vampirism. When one member of a family died from it, the other members that were infected would lose their health slowly.
People believed that this was caused by the original victim draining the life from the other family members. Furthermore, people who had TB exhibited symptoms similar to what people considered to be vampire traits. People with TB often have symptoms such as red, swollen eyes (which also creates a sensitivity to bright light), pale skin, extremely low body heat, a weak heart and coughing blood, suggesting the idea that the only way for the afflicted to replenish this loss of blood was by sucking blood.
Another folk belief told that the affected individual was being forced, nightly, to attend fairy revels, so that the victim wasted away owing to lack of rest; this belief was most common when a strong connection was seen between the fairies and the dead. Similarly, but less commonly, it was attributed to the victims being "hagridden"—being transformed into horses by witches (hags) to travel to their nightly meetings, again resulting in a lack of rest.
TB was romanticized in the nineteenth century. Many people believed TB produced feelings of euphoria referred to as Spes phthisica ("hope of the consumptive"). It was believed that TB sufferers who were artists had bursts of creativity as the disease progressed. It was also believed that TB sufferers acquired a final burst of energy just before they died that made women more beautiful and men more creative. In the early 20th century, some physicians believed TB to be caused by masturbation.
Holy mother of the goddess! I have to be careful...
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| Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:38 pm |
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Wolfmammy
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That John Keats! He must've been spanking the monkey all day long! 
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| Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:42 pm |
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Manisha
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Wolfmammy wrote: That John Keats! He must've been spanking the monkey all day long!  I wonder if a person can die laughing!
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| Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:49 pm |
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Wolfmammy
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Midieval Fantasy wrote: Wolfmammy wrote: That John Keats! He must've been spanking the monkey all day long!  I wonder if a person can die laughing! Well, if you don't breathe, then yes! 
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| Tue Mar 01, 2011 5:25 pm |
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LaceyReah
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 Are Vampires Just Dark Faeries?
They are not human yet they have human form. They are immortal and defy the laws of time. Sounds like a faery right? This idea came to me after experimenting with a story I wrote about vampires who feed on blood charged by the energy of orgasms. Someone on a goth board game me the idea. She was talking about her clitoris, her "button" and how easily she can be aroused, how crazy women are and how well we can orgasm over and over again. A few men replied by saying that their orgasms are pretty short lived. So, what if my creatures feed off the blood of orgasms. Surely, they wold become lesbians by choice.
Also, I took some knowledge from sexual chi kung. According to ancient practitioners, sexual energy is the most powerful kind. So, when the "nymphomites" (my word for these succubus vampires) feed, they become so powerful they can actually give life. After-all, sexual energy is the energy of creation. So the most powerful nymphomites can make grass grow and can heal biological life-forms.
What was the most interesting faery-like creature you have ever read or seen? I'm interested to know what the legends are in your culture. In my culture, there is a creature that comes out at night. It looks beautiful if you are not afraid of it, but as soon as you show fear, it becomes your worst nightmare. There are so many interesting monsters out there.
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| Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:18 pm |
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Manisha
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First: I do believe in faeries, I do, I do! (Seriously, I do). Now: I in no way shape or form see faeries as being any type of vampire. The only succubus I know of in history have never been faerie in origin. The first known vampire-like creature, that I am aware of (correct me if I am wrong) is that of Lilith, ( here also) Adam's first wife (from the bible). She was sexually...well happy and Adam wanted to control that. So she went away and became a sex demon- the mother of them all. Don't quote me on this, though. Click the links given instead. I know faeries are well renowned in Ireland, espeically that of faerie rings. Of course you have heard the lores that faeries are kidnappers and will steal your children away. I remember (pr vaguely remember) a story of a young girl who entered a faerie ring and was taken in by the fae. Next thing she knew she was outside the ring again and was an old woman. Depending on the type of faerie you encounter their moods and personally can vary vastly. Some like to be left alone, some like to help, while still others like to cause mischief. I have never heard of a blood sucking vampire-faerie before though. Demon, yes. Faerie, no. Fae and vampires are not the only creatures to defy the idea of time. I think that simply believing it and remembering and honoring the practices can keep them alive. Anyway...are not mermaids, demons, and (in an abstract way of think) the phoenix immortal as well? What about Harpies, the gods and goddesses, the myths of old that tell of bizarre creatures? Moving on... As for your comments about orgasms, I am not quite sure I follow what you are trying to get at. Are you wanting help with your story or just general opinions about 'otherworldly creatures' and the idea of sexual attraction between them and humans? As for sex being the most powerful energy (and I'm really not wanting to turn this in a sex talk) I am not sure I agree. I think love in general might be the most powerful source. Do you have sources for these "nymphomites" or are they simply your creation? The most interesting 'fae creature' I have ever heard about (faeries often do not like to be seen) is the Pooka (puca) from Irish tradition. It is a shapeshifter that often takes the form of a large black beast (usually a ((winged)) horse) with flaming yellow eyes. It is said that the Puca is extremely wise and intelligent, but can also be mischievous. If it gives you advise, it would do you well to heed it. November 1st is the day of the Pooka and some of the harvet is suppose to be set aside for it so that humans stay in their favor and the pooka will not cause mischief (it is also said that November first is the only day a Pooka can do no harm). It is said that if a pooka offers you a ride and you accept to be weary. It will try to buck you off and is very sly. However, if you live through it, the experience will completely change your life. -Midi Who is waiting very impatiently for a Pooka to come and take her away. (and yes, I know, I gave the romanticized version... shame on me). ETA: Empusa are the closest I have come to vampires in myth (Greek) is the Empusa. Also Here.. They are not faeries. You might also find This Thread of some interest.
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| Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:55 pm |
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Peruda
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I have to add my two cents-worth here: There certainly are species of Fae who drink human blood (trying to find their name). They appear as breathtakingly beautiful women with goat's feet who seduce men and drain them of their blood. However, I have to mention that Fae and Vampires are from two different branches of human mythology, with vampires as we know them (Anne Rice/ True Blood etc.) being of a more middle-eastern descent which slowly filtered west and Fae being a strictly Celtic concept.
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:00 am |
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Black Milk
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Actually, in Ireland there are myths of blood drinking fairy's, an entire castle full of them, but there isn't much detail to it. The Castle of the Blood Visage (Dreach-Fhoula in Irish). There is also Leanhaum-Shee which has a bit more detail to it, in some stories I've seen her described as having vampiric qualities, draining life force (but not drinking blood).
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:45 am |
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LaceyReah
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Thank you everyone for the feedback! I am of the impression that if I think of something, it has been thought of before. It seems to me that the stories of vampires and werewolves are done over and over again. I guess it's marketable. If an audience likes one vampire story, they will read another one. Although different creatures come from different mythologies from around the world, I am curious to see if some of these monsters are similar. I'm more about finding similarities in cultures and comparing them because I think we have a lot to learn from each other, esp. now that we have the internet and the ability to speak to people from around the world. I also like to think, if we had that creature here in this day and age, what would it be like? Would it evolve and changed due to our beliefs and lifestyles? I will look into these blood drinking faeries. I hope I find out their name. I would love to write a story about them. Yes, love is the most powerful energy on earth. The nymphomites were my creation and they are based on Buddhism. Buddhist practitioners practiced an art called chi kung. It is the art of harnessing energy in the body to create immense health and vitality. Chi energy is the energy of life, the electromagnetic energy in the body. It comes from food, movement and the air we breath. They believed that sexual energy is the energy we are born with. They had a name for each type of energy. They practiced sexual cultivation as well to harness this energy. Seeing that I write fiction, I like to make stuff up and I'm hoping I made up a story that is new and different. Besides, I find vampires to be sexual in nature anyway, at least the modern vampire and rather than have a vampire like the ones in Twilight that make no sense, I made these ones pretty aggressively sexual. I figure, why candy coat a concept like that? There is actually a Buddhist myth based on these sexual creatures. The novella I wrote about the Nymphomites is called "Fireflies". There is an interview with me regarding it here: http://bibrary.blogspot.com/2011/03/aut ... or-of.html
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:26 am |
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Manisha
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Yes if their name and some links could be found- I'd like to see and read about it as well.
_________________ "May I have the Enlightenment of Buddha, the Peace of Gandhi, the Balance of Loazi, the Confidence of Hypatia, the Logic of Dawkins, and the Science of Sagan to guide me in all things." -Midi
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 8:08 am |
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Peruda
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:29 am |
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Minnie d'Arc
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I'm sorry, but does anyone else find that name an awful lot like that of a Transylvanian Count of our acquaintance?
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| Thu Mar 24, 2011 11:56 am |
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Black Milk
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It's actually been suggested that the name Dracula is derived more from that story of the blood sucking fairies than Vlad Dracul's name (the pronunciation of Dreach-Fhoula is very similar to Dracula). We'll probably never know for certain though.
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Nephele
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Black Milk wrote: It's actually been suggested that the name Dracula is derived more from that story of the blood sucking fairies than Vlad Dracul's name (the pronunciation of Dreach-Fhoula is very similar to Dracula). We'll probably never know for certain though. Fascinating, Milky! I had not heard that before! You inspired me to do a 'net search, and I came up with this: Quote: Bram Stoker's "Dracula" is a masterpiece of horror. If you won't be reading the original novel this Halloween, you may be watching a vampire movie that owes its storyline and characterization to Stoker. Literary historians have long believed that Stoker based the title character upon Vlad Dracul, also known as "Vlad the Impaler". But there has been one nagging little mystery about that theory: how did Stoker learn about Vlad Dracul? There is a new argument rising that there wasn't enough dissemination of information on Vlad Dracul in the 19th century to fuel Stoker's imagination. These same literary historians are now presenting a new theory: Stoker's Dracula may have been Ireland born and bred, thanks to the dearg-due or the Irish vampire. Full posting here.-- Nephele
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