LGBTQI Issues and Related
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Black Milk
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The only information I could find on St Paul being gay, were claims by one priest, it's a theory, but there's no evidence one way or the other. link
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| Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:52 am |
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Luna Decay
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Nephele wrote: BlackFeather wrote: Well... I'm honestly not sure.  This is merely what my mother has told me, who studies religion... Not to cast doubts on what your mother has told you, but it is good to be skeptical.  And, honestly, there has been much speculation about the personal life of biblical characters. Facts are better (if facts there be). -- Nephele Indeed, good point!
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| Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:07 am |
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DarkPhoenix11
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Wolfmammy wrote: Codydarkstalker wrote: I don't get the LGBT deal in general. In my experience sexuality is more a spectrum. I might find some girls attractive but not all, but only date guys, so am I bi? Does it matter?? If you want you could start a thread for a specific topic, but goth and gay seems pretty general, not enough to have much to talk about other then, what's it like to be goth and gay or is it harder being gay and goth and such. When two types of people share the same life experiences it is normal for them to bond. The Gay Community has always been welcomed in the Goth subculture as long as I've known because, as Midi so eloquently stated already, they both face similar persecution from society. When has gender bending and fluating societal norms NOT been a part of this subculture? There's no need to ask what it's like to be Goth and gay, because a lot of us already know and even if we don't personally know, we have friends that do. Personally, I don't 'get' when people are so concerned about labels and why most people can't just accept others for who they are... {{{HUGZ Hopeless}}}This is unfortunately not true with the transgender community, who can often be rejecting of Goths (Believe me I've been subject to it). While I see it with lesbians, gays and bisexuals being accepting, transgender individuals tend to be the opposite. Not to mention the fact that there is a major issue of the GLB individuals looking down on transgender individuals. Should have seen washington state, there were multiple instances where transgender individuals were basically segregated away from lesbians and gays during community events. So while people SHOULD know what it is like to face discrimination it is not always the case. Bigotry comes in all shapes and sizes, whether you are gay, lesbian, straight, bisexual, transgender etc, bigotry can and often does remain.
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| Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:18 pm |
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Arquinsiel
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Joined: January 2008 Posts: 3047 Location: Dublin Gender:
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| Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:10 am |
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Midieval Fantasy
Manisha
Joined: October 2009 Posts: 8328 Location: Jacksonville Florida. Gender:
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Arquinsiel wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/de ... NETTXT9038 That is awesome. It made me smile.
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| Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:19 am |
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Luna Decay
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Arquinsiel wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/de ... NETTXT9038 Aww! 
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| Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:19 am |
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Hades1345
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*hugs* Midi Thank you for making this thread.
I have that picture saved to my computer, it makes me smile a tear up a little every time I see it. Only thing left now is to get rid of DOMA. I'm glad though that before my partner David passed while deployed that DADT, was repealed now I have about ten people he was friends with who have helped me out a lot that would have never known otherwise.
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| Fri Dec 23, 2011 2:49 pm |
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Midieval Fantasy
Manisha
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Hades1345 wrote: *hugs* Midi Thank you for making this thread.
I have that picture saved to my computer, it makes me smile a tear up a little every time I see it. Only thing left now is to get rid of DOMA. I'm glad though that before my partner David passed while deployed that DADT, was repealed now I have about ten people he was friends with who have helped me out a lot that would have never known otherwise. Thanks for the hugs, Hades, but I didn't create the thread. My (best) friend did who is no longer on the board. I am sorry to hear that your partner passed away. That is sad. I can't wait for DOMA to be repealed as well. It is a horrible, horrible law.
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| Fri Dec 23, 2011 3:20 pm |
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Black Milk
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Random googling led me to stumble upon this interesting article : Gay marriage is as old as historyI haven't had the chance to look into any of it's claims yet by the way, just thought some may be interested to read it.
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| Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:56 pm |
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Midieval Fantasy
Manisha
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That is a very interesting article, and not as surprising to me as I one might think!
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| Wed Jan 18, 2012 6:50 pm |
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Black Milk
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Proposition 8 ruled unconstitutional Link
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| Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:58 am |
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Nephele
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Black Milk wrote: Proposition 8 ruled unconstitutional Link Hails on a wise decision! U.S. Court of Appeals wrote: Proposition 8 serves no purpose, and has no effect, other than to lessen the status and human dignity of gays and lesbians in California, and to officially reclassify their relationships and families as inferior to those of opposite-sex couples. The Constitution simply does not allow for "laws of this sort." Romer v. Evans, 517 U.S. 620, 633 (1996). 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution wrote: Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. -- Nephele
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| Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:23 am |
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Arquinsiel
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Victory!
It;s nice to see that the courts rule sensibly on occasion.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:25 am |
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sgath92
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I wouldn't get excited yet. The 9th is the most overturned court in the US. This'll probably go to the supreme court and then it's a matter of what they decide to do [if anything]. What happens then can be really good or really bad.
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| Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:02 am |
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Midieval Fantasy
Manisha
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Black Milk wrote: Proposition 8 ruled unconstitutional Link It's about time the government watched Prop 8 The Musical. Jack Black and Neil Patrick Harris is ever wise. Midi is VERY happy about this. It should never have been put into law to begin with. Hopefully the Marriage Act will be next.
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