No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
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Carpathian Dark Princess
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 No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
Because it has no factor in our species' evolutionary history, like how this article said, and it's just rude. Some evoulutionary anthropologists believe that sarcasm is a sign of our brains' complexity and ability to survive, primarily in social situations nowadays, since not everyone can detect/use sarcasm properly and move on from it. So I'm not the one with the problem: you are! (Note: Yeah. This articles was presented to the web last year. Sue me.)
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| Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:51 pm |
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
I think sarcasm is hilarious, but it is rude, and often times not necessary. It can create bad blood, really.. But I think it's hilarious.
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| Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:55 pm |
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Carpathian Dark Princess
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
It's pretty wierd how they linked a notion like sarcasm to evolution, but I don't think every person who can't detect sarcasm is kooky in the brainworks or is not capable of reproducing. Of course, there are a lot of people who can't take a joke for the life of them - even if it's not on a touchy topic. And it's impossible to not pull out a sarcastic comment when the situation calls for it. I'm more of an unintentional/deadpan person anyway. My mom uses sarcasm more than me. 
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| Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:40 am |
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potip
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
it always annoys me when someone say something stupid without thinking about it and later they say its sarcasm.
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thetragicclown
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
carpathian_dark_princess wrote: not everyone can detect/use sarcasm properly and move on from it. No! Really? You don't say! In all my years of living and being on the internet I had absolutely no idea whatsoever that some people can't detect sarcasm. Thank you for enlightening me with this astounding gift of pure unfiltered knowledg- okay I'll stop being sarcastic now. 
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| Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:34 am |
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Carpathian Dark Princess
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
Don't worry; I was in no way offended when you insulted my intelligence using that sentence constructed with irony and witt. 
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| Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:43 am |
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potip wrote: it always annoys me when someone say something stupid without thinking about it and later they say its sarcasm. It's ruining the art of sarcasm!! 
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| Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:58 am |
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Letalis Senium
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
We sent all the genetically irony free over with the Mayflower, missed a trick there.
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| Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:39 am |
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Midieval Fantasy
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I think that sarcasm can be your best friend when used correctly, and your worst enemy when used improperly. I also feel that sometimes, you need to think about what you say before you say it (this comes from experience), though I will maintain that in some situations, sarcasm cannot be helped. Example : I went to the WIC office (Women, Infants, and Children)with my son to get some checks for milk eggs, etc... Well, first off, let me say that my son has a rather large birthmark under his right eye that covers his whole cheek and fades into his hairline, okay so anyway I was playing with my son when this woman looked over at us and says "My God! What's wrong with his face?" the thoughtless comment pissed me off. The first thing that popped in my head was "Bitch!" But instead, i said (without thinking) "He was crying on the way over here, and i had to hit him a few times to shut him up" The comment was loaded with sarcasm. Even my expression told of the untrue nature of my statement. It went completely over her head. She actually was ready to call child services (might it have been my appearance that lead her on, do you think?). I ended up having to explain his birthday, where she then demanded to know his entire life history. To this day, I find it hard to believe that the woman thought I was serious. I mean, honestly, how many people in their right mind would actually go into a government building and admit to abusing their children when asked about it? Though, i suppose that anyone who abuses their children cannot be in their right mind to begin with... Regardless, she made me mad and I rebelled in my own way : sarcasm. I feel it was the right move, though I admit I should probably have said something different. If anything, the situation taught me to be careful when using sarcasm. Now, whenever someone asks about his birthmark, I just tell them or ignore them. In fact, more often than not I find myself ignoring people rather than saying anything in response to some of other people's stupid comments. - Letalis Senium : Great response  !
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DarkPhoenix11
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
I can get extremely sarcastic, though I try to limit it to people who know me, ESPECIALLY on the internet where it is much harder to express it without any voice inflection. It can definitely be done but it is trickier.
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| Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:33 am |
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Carpathian Dark Princess
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
I agree to an extent, DarkPhoenix. On the internet, the proper way to express sarcasm is with the (!)/(?) punctuations or [/sarcasm]. Of course, sometimes that ruins the whole joke, so people might omit it, and that's were problems start. Actually, I found this article after a run-in I had on Youtube... A week or so ago, I posted a very sarcastic comment on a video concerning Tarja Turunen (if know about the Nightwish drama, to be frank: half the side hates her because they think she's greedy, and half of us love her because we think it was probably an exaggeration, etc.). Being on the latter side, I expressed how I didn't really believe her to be a greedy bitch by saying: Quote: "Yup: she's truly a materialistic diva.
Just look at her despicable fingers handling each present with care; her annoying squeals of glee in appreciation of each gift she has recieved from loved ones. Tarja makes me sick, I tells ya; I can hardly bear to even GLANCE at her terribly cute demeanor. >:( " As you can see, although I didn't use any proper netiquette to pronounce my sarcasm, I used quite a few words that I at least thought would give it away as a joke. And apparently, some people still can't tell. Only one person repsonded to it, and though at first I thought it was sarcasm also, they were serious (how scary(!)) in thinking I was serious. I only said one thing to them: Quote: " Congratulations, my friend: you have just discovered 'sarcasm'." They haven't responded to me, but I'm really looking forward to it,
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| Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:36 am |
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Wolfmammy
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 Re: No; sarcasm isn't important in human social life.
Midieval Fantasy wrote: I think that sarcasm can be your best friend when used correctly, and your worst enemy when used improperly. I also feel that sometimes, you need to think about what you say before you say it (this comes from experience), though I will maintain that in some situations, sarcasm cannot be helped. Example : I went to the WIC office (Women, Infants, and Children)with my son to get some checks for milk eggs, etc... Well, first off, let me say that my son has a rather large birthmark under his right eye that covers his whole cheek and fades into his hairline, okay so anyway I was playing with my son when this woman looked over at us and says "My God! What's wrong with his face?" the thoughtless comment pissed me off. The first thing that popped in my head was "Bitch!" But instead, i said (without thinking) "He was crying on the way over here, and i had to hit him a few times to shut him up" The comment was loaded with sarcasm. Even my expression told of the untrue nature of my statement. It went completely over her head. She actually was ready to call child services (might it have been my appearance that lead her on, do you think?). I ended up having to explain his birthday, where she then demanded to know his entire life history. To this day, I find it hard to believe that the woman thought I was serious. I mean, honestly, how many people in their right mind would actually go into a government building and admit to abusing their children when asked about it? Though, i suppose that anyone who abuses their children cannot be in their right mind to begin with... Regardless, she made me mad and I rebelled in my own way : sarcasm. I feel it was the right move, though I admit I should probably have said something different. If anything, the situation taught me to be careful when using sarcasm. Now, whenever someone asks about his birthmark, I just tell them or ignore them. In fact, more often than not I find myself ignoring people rather than saying anything in response to some of other people's stupid comments. - Letalis Senium : Great response  ! Oh, wow, you'd think that people could tell it's a birthmark. My daughter has a mongolian spot on her left hip that still hasn't faded. It looks like a huge purple bruise and people have actually accused us of beating her because of it. It was supposed to have faded by now, but lucky for us it hasn't, yet. 
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| Fri Nov 27, 2009 11:51 am |
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Midieval Fantasy
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Yes, the doctor's call his birthmark a "Brandywine Stain". It is a pretty bright red, somedays it is lighter than others and vise versa.
People can be diots and really need to stay out of other's business (at least most of the time).
I love sarcasm, i think it is great, but to an exstent. Due to that situation, andothers, i have extremely limited my sarcasm use. Though i still use it pretty regularly.
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spiderlimbs
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The best part about sarcasm is you can pass it onto your children. Case in point: One day while playing a board game with a friend and his 4 year old daughter, we decided to let her win the game as any good adult should. Well, when it got down to her last move she stated in a tone dripping with sarcasm "I'm gonna move here, and then I am going to take your piece. Then I am going to win, and you're going to lose, then you'l be all "Boo-hoo"" at which point she rubs her eyes in a faux crying gesture. It was the single cutest thing I have ever seen a kid do.  ~spidey
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ArcAngel
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I'm NEVER sarcastic!  But seriously, in case the sarcastic sentence above didn't make it obvious, I'm definitely an advocate for sarcasm. O nline though, it's irritating. Because you get idiots arguing online, and when they're proven wrong and made to look like morons, they then claim it to be sarcasm. Or when someone says something ridiculously stupid, and you tell them it was stupid, "Oh, I was being sarcastic". Yes, and I've been elected Mayor of Silly Hat Town!  But I'm heavily sarcastic in person. My family, and pretty much anyone else I encounter know me for being a smart-ass, sarcastic, and translating things oh-too-literal.  There was a kid's show Disney used to play, "The Weekenders". The one main character, Tino, is known for being quite sarcastic. In fact, Forward to About 2:25. 
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