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 Bagelheads - how far is too far? 
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Post Bagelheads - how far is too far?
I came across this trend .
What do you think of it?
I don't judge them, it's their choice and they are old enough to decide on their own.
But, are they trying to be spectacular, controversial , or attractive ?
It made me wonder about a lot of things.
Does such a fashion exist? , a form of fashion universally rejected? Bagelhead is clearly not one, because there are quite a few people who embrace it.

I think what lies at the core of all this is the hunger for originality. But it has a downside, especially when it results in health problems. Also, I never had any body modification that it is irreversible. Not even tattoos (mainly because I'm paranoid about ink poisoning and dirty needles). I've once seen extreme cases of "finger shortening". :shock:

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I searched the word "baglehead" and there were 0 matches, so I guess it hasn't been mentioned before.


Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:44 pm
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Post Re: Bagelheads - how far is too far?
I found some more pictures of them here.
http://www.iheartjapan.ca/2011/10/bizarre-japan-bagleheads/

I think it's a pretty clear fashion "don't"... makes me think of an injury, like when you bump your head and get a "goose egg" or some kind of infection. That said, I'm also open-minded enough to realize that maybe I'm just too old and out of touch with those young whipper-snappers. And it made some of the kids looked pretty bad-ass, so I'm thinking that in the right context, a temporary mod like this would have its uses. Maybe a zombie-themed night at your favorite club? Who knows?

Also, I am in agreement with you, my dear OP -- permanent mods can be quite the commitment. I have tattoos which aren't visible to other people, and a few piercings which I figure I can take out someday if I ever decide I hate them. The idea of doing something *like* this for a temporary fun/shocking effect doesn't bother me, the fact that they could be causing some type of permanent damage down the line is disconcerting to me. It's reminiscent of people who used leeches in the 1800s so that they'd look sexy. The lengths that people will go to for attractiveness can be pretty astounding.


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I'm with Porphy on this one. Maybe I'm just not young and hip enough to 'get' this look? :?

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Post Re: Bagelheads - how far is too far?
I don't know. I think, like any form of body modification, that if it is done right then it can look good. Besides, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If a person were to get something like that done in accordance with their facial structure, then I think it can look pretty good (As the guy in the first photo, on the right, is proof of via porphy's link).

Then again, if done via a saline solution drip...that just seems...over the top. If you want that type of body mod, then get implants. The drip just seems unhealthy, and it makes me wonder if I stuck a needle in the skin in the 'sac' would burst...

Implants could do the job just as well (if not better) if they want it to last. There are plenty of people with implanted horns on their heads that I think are sexy as hell. However, if the person only wants temporary shock value, I think they should find other venues, because it simply doesn't look healthy.

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Also, I think that if the ball were a bit smaller on the girl in the second picture to the right (via, again, porphy's link) she'd be pretty damn sexy, but that's just me. I do think that it seems dangerous and it is not something I'd ever do. If I wanted to go to links that extreme, as said above, I'd get implants.

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Hmmm. Except for these, all of the body mods I can think of (I'm sure I don't know all that are possible) are such that they look deliberately artificial. By that I mean the insertion, displacement, surface application, or puncturing by/of a substance or object in an area of the body where it is obvious the manipulation does not occur by itself in nature, thereby enhancing the effect. This particular mod does do that, but unlike the others, is very difficult to discern from the swelling that occurs with an injury, infectious disease, tumor, or deformative condition such as Elephantiasis or Paget's disease. Because of this, many observers will confuse it with the real thing. But maybe that's the point - perhaps the only way to really look "different" (now that body mods among cultures who don't normally apply them are becoming more common and acceptable) is to make oneself appear medically unsound.

All I know is, when hacking off ears or fingers becomes a fashion statement, it's time for me to hang up my sewing machine and jewelry pliers. Until then, to each their own.

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That's doin' too much.

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I still think it's gross.

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Agreed, Wolfie... and I don't see the point if it wears off in a day! But as someone that has a morbid fear of needles, just the idea of having them inserted into my forehead is enough to make me run for the hills :lol:

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Maybe the non-permanence is part of the turn off, for me. I commit myself thoroughly to my tats & piercings.

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What the christ......


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Post Re: Bagelheads - how far is too far?
Well, people have come up to me just to point out that I have a lot of piercings, and that they think it's gross. So I wont say that about this ... trend? Is it a trend?
Either way, body modification can be very beautiful, but there is a fine line, and once you step over it, it just becomes grotesque. I would never get something like that done, as I think it looks like they banged their heads up pretty good. Definitely not something for me.

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2000AD got there first! How awesome is that?

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I've seen similar to this in California.... These people would have the silicone pads placed under the skin of their foreheads and arms and it would make them look like lizard people.

The bagel head look is interesting. I think that they are trying to look like the japanese demons, Oni?

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HopelessRomantic wrote:
The bagel head look is interesting. I think that they are trying to look like the japanese demons, Oni?

I can see that comparison, and yes, when I lived in West Hollywood, I'd occasionally see people with the silicone transdermal implants -- met "Lizardman" on Melrose once, very nice fellow, all "yes sir," and "thank you, miss" at the shops; just your average every-day "sweet boy next door" type, who just happens to have gotten the body modifications to look more lizard-like.

I may not personally understand the desire or appeal for certain modifications, but the way I figure is that to each their own. One person's "mutilation" is another's idea of beauty.

By the way, I really hated that guy in the video, and to young woman, too, but to a lesser extent. I think this could have been presented without coming off like a judgemental meathead, like he is (her tone is far lesser, but it's still present here and there). I may not understand the appeal, but the people going for these "extreme" modifications aren't hurting anybody, and the temporary saline modifications aren't even hurting themselves --and even those seeking amputations typically take precautions to reduce the risk to one's life. There's no reason to pass the kind of judgement this fellow is except to try and make oneself look "better", and all he's doing is making himself look like a toolbox. He doesn't know anything about these kids or why they're doing it, so I don't feel he's at all in the right to be so harsh in his judgement. I may not understand the appeal, and I may not find it aesthetically pleasing, so I may disagree with doing it on those grounds, but that doesn't give me the right to assume that anybody doing this has "mental problems", and even if I did, that doesn't give me the right to take the harsh attitudes he is.

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